Monday, November 8, 2010

In a “Relationship”?


        One of the various aspects of life which makes me curious is a love relationship between two people. So far I have not had any, but I discussed with many of my friends who are in a relationship. They all are in their early twenties and some of them, apart from their existing relationships, have one or more failed ones in past. My curiosity is all about what it means, how it grows and, most importantly, why most of the love affairs at this tender age do not last long. This is because I have observed many people keeping themselves involved in a “trial-and-error game” in this regard.

          What is meant by a “relationship”? It simply means that you can relate or associate yourself with somebody else. The basis of this association is, of course, love. Two people in a relationship love each other, respect and appreciate each others’ values and viewpoints and give adequate space to each other so as to feel relaxed and comfortable. However, everything else follows from “love”, which itself is a big mystery.

          There are words like “crush”, “infatuation” and “love” which sounds pretty close but are significantly different. Let me describe what these words mean to me. Suppose that X is the person you like. “Crush” means that you say to yourself, “How nice it’ll be if I’m with X!” You are reluctant to take any practicality into account and you just fantasize. A stronger version of “crush” is known as “infatuation”, where you try your best to get the attention of X and feel excited the moment you are successful. You turn crazy when it comes to fantasizing about X.

             The mysterious “love”, on the other hand, is not an element of the sky. When you are in love, you are neither over-imaginative nor impulsive. You walk slowly and patiently and try to understand X as a whole. In course of time you are able to perceive an ocean in every droplet of water you see and, moreover, you can sense whenever there is an indication of a storm. This may sound a little philosophical, so here are a few simple questions to verify whether the feeling you have for X is true love or not.        

            (1) There are certain issues about which X is worried or tensed or feels insecure. Do you realize those issues and give X the necessary support such that he (she) feels stronger, which in turn makes you happy?
         
          (2) Like everybody else, X also excels in a few areas and neglects some other matters which you think is not correct since X may suffer in future for negligence. Do you appreciate the qualities and point out the mistakes for his (her) betterment and does it make you happy?

          (3) Suppose that you give X a lot in terms of (1) and (2) above but get back either little or nil or negative return. Do you still continue to give, without expecting anything, or without ever comparing how much you give and how much you receive; just because giving makes you happy?

          If all 3 answers are YES, your love is absolutely true and sincere. But, even if you say a single NO, it is just an illusion. This is because love is all about “selfless giving for self-pleasure”.  

          Let us now come to love relationships. A “relationship” is a genuine one if and only if both the persons honestly say YES to all 3 questions because then only they will be able to truly relate to each other. Over a span of time, such a relationship will become a treasure for both of them and they will shine together in many aspects of life. But if the number of YES is less than (3+3), I think that 'relationship' is just a wastage of time (what people call ‘time-pass’) and perhaps money and nothing more than a hindrance in life.

          I would like to conclude with a few more terms I heard in this context, like (1) “steady” and “standby” boyfriend/girlfriend; (2) “back-up” and (3) the saying: “love is blind”. The first two are part of the “trial-and-error game" I mentioned earlier. I hardly have any idea of what these people think of love. The third one may have different interpretations. To me it is the “selfless giving” that I stated. It is never a drawback of love; it is the power of love!

          Well, these are all my views. But I know all people are not alike and we need to learn to appreciate the differences among us. At some points I might have become irrational or emotionally overwhelmed or some issues I might have not touched at all, the reason may be lack of experience or whatever else. Please point out those areas and let me know where you differ from me through your valuable comment.

24 comments:

  1. I kind of agree with whatever you said... I mean its all true in theory....but the step-by-step guide to verify whether you are in love is a bit too much!!! I mean... the points are true in essence, but why would anyone verify it that way!! But as I said, I completely agree with whatever you think.

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  2. Somebody said 'lovers are like two legs of a divider (that one u can find in a geometry box)'but one leg rarely knows dat it is connected to de second....so are we...dipanjan said lot of things about algebra of love and a bit logic behind it...hope to hear something about feasibility criterion of love..when we can understand it is possible and when it is not....

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  3. As far as my opinion is concerned... initially many relationships lack directionality and seriousness.later as time goes on it starts making certain sense.logical reasoning becomes irrelevant in those cases.but whatever u pointed out is d general case.but it is such a complex thing that exceptions are available in plenty....

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  4. While I was first going through this blog, I felt like I was reading (or rather studying) a book on "crush,infatuation and Love" by TMH Publication.
    The Logic and Variable 'X', Used clearly shows that the blog is written by a Mathematician or an Engineer.
    I agree with the 1st and 3rd point but regarding the 2nd point, I never feel like correcting the faults of the X ;) b'cos these are his/her characteristics and you start loving them also when you love a person.
    But I should appreciate so logical differentiation between Crush,infatuation and Love. :)

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  5. Thanks a lot to all who commented so far :):)

    Actually I thought a lot about how two people decide that they can have a relationship. "Lacking directionality and seriousness"- I can't even conceive of a relationship without these vital factors, whatever the time phase may be.

    Regarding the 2nd point, I never meant to point out all the faults. 'Fault' is a relative word and when we love somebody, we actually like many of them. But at the same time, we can very well sense the points which may prove costly in future and we don't want our loved one to suffer, do we?

    Anyway, don't stop thinking and commenting. They are always welcome :):):)

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  6. Well organized thoughts penned down together, Dipanjan, I must say. But a few ideas that crossed my mind while I was reading it:
    1) What do you say of "Love at first sight" (thought I am a strong opponent of this concept)? As per your statement: "You walk slowly and patiently and try to understand X as a whole," love at first sight cannot be true right?
    2) The three conditions you mentioned are more or less necessary but not sufficient. I think one of the most important elements in a relationship is trust. Freedom and accomodativeness are not far behind.

    P.S.: Time-pass is not necessarily a waste of time if both the persons involved enjoy it :P

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  7. Brb!!! well written... one must be in love to pen down such thoughtful lines. Well,I am inexperienced in this field but these lines will surely strike my mind when I undergo a true one.. By the way u have cleared my doubt from point 3 that what I had in my past was just crush and not true love..!!! But still I feel that its very difficult to realize the same way as in point 3 for someone.I cant continue if I get a negative return. I move on. So should everyone else.

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  8. @AVIK: Thanks a lot for your thoughtful comments. Whatever you say mean a lot to me.

    (1)I also don't believe in LFS. At first sight, we may be interested to know a person but I would like to call it "curiosity" rather than "love". I think that love occurs during the process of knowing the person.

    (2)Trust, Freedom & Accommodativeness: CORRECT.

    (3)Time-pass: When you are in a relationship,you must think of the future apart from enjoying the present. The (3+3) I said here and those you suggested are the pillars of its stability. In case the pillars are not strong enough, the enjoyment will gradually fade away. In that case, there is no point in such "time-pass".

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  9. I do not think you should have been judgmental in the place where you said those number of YES and 3+3 thing. Other than that, it makes me feel like I am listening to you speak in a project presentation or class. :P
    Good try nonetheless. Keep it up.

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  10. According to my opinion and as Avik pointed, the 3+3 rule is necessary but not sufficient. But again as Dipanjan said, we should appreciate our differences. Love means different things to different people. So, the idea of timepass may be important to those people who are involved in it. And I think there are several factors involved in this matter and if we really start observing and think about love considering all those factors, our system might corrupt.:P

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  11. look man although i never had any intense love relationships,still i can say ....if you try to solve each and every mystery about LOVE..you are just wasting your time....coz.the uncertainty,the mistery regarding LOVE is its only fuel to go beyond the limits.....once i loved a girl....i didint get her in my life....today i say it was my biggest infatuation..but if i look back into that period of time and moreover if i remain true to myself i must say it was love......love.and only love.....to me atleast for time being. ..so you can easily say immature love is infatutaion..and its 1st stage is crush....but why to worry so much????love is neither a life saving tablet which you have to swallow nor an expired one which you should throw away.......its just a good feeling which everyone want to feel.........dont let these questions bother your mind......just feel the charm.....coz if you are into a relationship,you have to face thousands of these tricky questions..........so CHILL MAN.................

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  12. maybe what u said about relationships is true. but one cannot keep so many hings in mind and decide whether its a "true love" or not!! and at no point of time can u say that the relationship is "true love"! the most imp thing is both of them should love each other and respect others feelings! and dres nuthing like trial and error. life is totally unpredictive. so do not tag ur relationships as "true love". live life as it comes. dat will give u a lot of happiness. dont go about fulfilling any criterion. nonetheless, well written :)

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  13. Well written DS. Whatever you have written may be true But some words are more beautiful when they are not uttered. Don't be so judgmental about "true love". I think in our "love"ly world there is no room for false or fake love coz love is always true, if you really want to call it "love". Another thing I want to add. you cannot search your love following some rules, it just happens. There may be trials in building a relationship but there is no error in it coz every failed relationship just corrects you cumulatively.

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  14. You can create a facebook app - "Are you in Love ?" .. and believe me you will not disappoint facebook !!
    Now about the blog : In some places I tried to disagree, but in the end there is nothing I can point out. May be I have so much respect for you that I can't disagree with you, at least not with your writings.
    But I did't think even you can formulate a logical theory to check whether someone "is in love". I really thought there is something which can not be told mathematically, for which no algorithm can be proposed, which is "illogical". May be I'm wrong but it feels so good just thinking of something which is constrained by nothing.
    I no longer need to comment on your literature skills... but don't spend your entire life on "control systems". Someday I wan't to buy a "Dipanjan Dey Rachana Samagra" ........

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  15. Sourav, Kingu, Ishan, Deepu, Saty & Monu:

    Thanks a lot to all of you for your honest and thoughtful comments that have enriched my knowledge and understanding.

    I accept the fact that I tried to ascertain the state of a person's feelings for somebody else and evaluate the quality of a relationship based on a bit of logic. However, to me, logical thinking is a source of enjoyment which helps me to understand myself and others better. I get the point that love is something beyond rationality. However, I still think that one should not take any step without thinking of the consequences and this is a must for a relationship to shine for ever....

    More comments like the above ones please....:):)

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  16. OHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



    "Love" have you ever thought that these people can ever think about you and your prospects like this???

    I'm sure you didn't.

    First of all all credit goes to Dipanjan and you should come to him verrrry soon.

    Now let me pinch u a bit more.
    Hey "LOVE", I know you are there in every touch of life on this planet. And this relationship also doesn't matter that much in the sense of your presence. Beat infatuation beat crush you are there in the thought of living good. I prefer people, don't judge yourself so much.

    On my behalf you are the biggest unsolved chemistry in this universe, we don't know what comes out of us when we see a glimpse of you on anything. But what ever it is you just blow people away, make them feel high.

    Every one has a different perspective to understand you. You are too much generalized to be personified. You are just lovely "love"

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  17. Well done Deepu. But according to me defining Love with the help of logic is not going to help. Because love is part of biggest mystery,i.e. Life. We are unable to define or explain it. I like this mystery to be unsolved because love/life is a good feeling and I am afraid what we would do if we could solve the mystery and manipulate it or bend it in our way by logical means.
    SO, enjoy the feeling and let it go beyond logic.

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  18. Tomar deya
    kaalo okkhorer upohaarey
    haar mangsher
    shorir ta peyechhi;
    kintu taar atta jeno,
    modhoraatey,
    tumi kothao
    hariye felechho!

    Tomar chestay truti chhilona
    kintu manusher itihashey
    machhdhorar jaley
    prem dhora diyechhey kobey!

    Aamaro eki ushubidhey!,
    jei haather
    porosh paini ekhono
    taar ushnotakey
    porihash kori kikorey?

    Bujhley to manush jeno
    bromho sagorer gorbher
    shei muktokhani.
    Je mukto onubhob kortey janey
    tobu jeno sob mukter shaari
    eka eka bichhinno,
    bemanan jongli phooler moton
    Bhalobasha shei shutor moton
    je diye ishwar
    jiboner maala gathey
    je diye prithibir saaj sonay sohaga!

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  19. Saptarshi Da,

    "Thank you" bolle tomay chhoto kora hobe tai ar bollam na ota.....

    I could never imagine that somebody could actually write a poem in response to my blog..... it's not just wonderful, whatever you have written is very correct and genuine in all senses.... :):)

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  20. Like the writing style but the content is juvenile. All of us who write feel love is the issue to focus on, but you can approach it differently. Your style is serious and your content should match up to it. That said, I like the clinical approach, so like my own before I fell in love!

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  21. Hello Dipanjan, a well articulated thought, I must say. I think you have correctly discriminated the significant differences between crush, infatuation and "mysterious love"! But there are certain points I'd like to mention in this context. Firstly, I think, possessiveness is a basic nature of every human being and its degree varies from one person to the other. In this blog, what you've termed as mere "time passing" and/or "trial and error 'game'“ is just a glimpse of this "immature possessiveness". But there is nothing wrong in it. If a boy/girl enjoys the company of another girl/boy in terms of getting his/her attention and so forth, then there is literally no problem with that. What you think is a waste of time may not be the same for all your peers! Let me quote one line from your blog: "When you are in love, you are neither over-imaginative nor impulsive. You walk slowly and patiently and try to understand X as a whole". This line clearly expresses a genuine maturity which tender age 'can lack'. I think in the course of so called 'true love', you have to go through all the preceding stages viz. crush and infatuation. And it is the maturity which urges you to respect and seriously think about your partner's feeling; apart from enjoying the warmth of fantasizing. Secondly, you have put fair logic about directionality. Let us consider that you've positively responded to all the three pertinent questions but your partner hasn’t. But, as you've rightly said "love is blind", even if you are mature enough, your demented mind will always want to keep the 'relationship' alive, although according to you there is a little or no future of this relationship. All I want to say is that your rational entity made you write this "methodical approach of verification of mysterious love", but my friend, when it is the game of pituitary, you may not 'control' the spontaneous actions of the 'intelligent controller', whatever modern 'method of controller tuning' you might have adopted! Don't mind. Nonetheless, it is really a very good try, keep it up.

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  22. Being in love and in true relationship is never the same..You can love someone very much and answer yes to all of the questions but
    1>It never guarantees you love that person only
    you can have the same feelings for more than one girl/boy.But you cannot be in a relationship with more than one girl/boy.
    2>Understanding ..again true love never guarantees understanding.It does not matter how much you love each other until and unless you understand each other.
    At the end of the day every one is selfish.Love is a very temporary feelings.I am sorry to say but all we see is what we are getting from the relationship.
    And about crush and infatuation?
    I support them.
    I mean what is wrong there?
    I can like anyone for any thing.Does that mean that I have to make it serious and take it for life time?

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  24. Well Dipanjan, although it's never stated in ur article explicitly, i cant help being under the impression that "LOVE" here refers to "romantic love"(i cant find a better expression for that) only. In that case i think u should have taken into account the two most significant features which distinguishes the so-called "romantic love" from the other kinds (say, parental love, brotherly love etc.)

    1)sexuality, which most probably is the direct or concealed root of romantic feelings.

    Can u love a girl without having any conscious or subconscious carnal feeling? I guess not, coz evn if all three answers to ur questions happen to be "YES", u dont "FALL IN LOVE" with ur mother or sister. And surely enuf, some of us have friends of opposite gender whom we love a lot and for whom the answers to ur questions meybe YES (maybe even more "yes" than that for our romantic partners), and yet we nevr fall in love with them either.

    Conversely, love is definitely not all about sexuality. coz in that case, evry other college guy wud have been torridly in love with katrina kaif and evry other clg girl with robert pattinson.


    2)Possessiveness. Though this is present in some form or the other in every kind of love under the sun, this feeling is particularly predominant and has the most uncanny form when it comes to romantic affairs. For one thing, u can easily tell ur sister "I like ms. X very much. she's just like a sister to me". Well,if ur sister is possessive about u, she won't want her place to be taken up by some other girl, but it wud surely be more than sufficient to comfort her if u just say "well, ms. X is like a sister to me. But I love u a lot more".
    The same will probably not be applicable to ur girlfriend.

    If you're possessive about ur girlfriend, u can't say YES to the 3rd question with impunity (think about it n u'll know wht I mean). And if you're not possessive enough, then it might as well be a friendly or brotherly love. How do u tell them apart?

    Love isn't that easy to pin down my friend.

    Give a thought to these two aspects.

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